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DEG Signature flugel by Modl, Holton-esque design
Oct 11th, 2019 at 6:32pm
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/Donald-E-Getzen-Signature-Flugelhorn-Ser-191-Plays-Well...

Identical to Modl flugels [not too common, but there is one on HUC, ID 9793] which themselves are based on the old Holtons with S-leadpipe

  
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Re: DEG Signature flugel by Modl, Holton-esque design
Reply #1 - Oct 30th, 2019 at 7:50pm
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Interesting, I just looked through the flugels in the catalog here looking for the same design.  My friend got a very beat-up Grenadier flugel that uses the exact same wrap and first valve trigger design, which seems to me to be a relatively crappy import (though I didn't see a country of origin stamp so that's up for debate).  The most similar design I saw to this was the Holton F100/F400, which used a very similar wrap with a proper first slide trigger linkage.  I don't know how this and the Holton line up chronologically, but I interpreted these as a cheap copy of the Holton, and Getzen was known to import instruments (looking at you Anborg compensating horns...).  I would attach the crappy photos I got of the Grenadier, but with the hassle it takes I'll probably wait until I get proper photos.  Despite the massive dent in the bell tail it played surprisingly tolerably, and valve compression was much better than I expected from such a cheap-looking instrument.
  
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Re: DEG Signature flugel by Modl, Holton-esque design
Reply #2 - Nov 2nd, 2019 at 8:17pm
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Neat!  It might be easier to upload the photos to a folder on Google Drive, make it link-shareable ["Anyone with link can view"], then put the link here.  If there's a serial, it'll make it easier to see what series it falls into, and seeing the pistons would also help with determining the maker.  I'd guess it's a Modl horn like this, but that's just my shot in the dark...

WrongBrothers wrote on Oct 30th, 2019 at 7:50pm:
Interesting, I just looked through the flugels in the catalog here looking for the same design.  My friend got a very beat-up Grenadier flugel that uses the exact same wrap and first valve trigger design, which seems to me to be a relatively crappy import (though I didn't see a country of origin stamp so that's up for debate).  The most similar design I saw to this was the Holton F100/F400, which used a very similar wrap with a proper first slide trigger linkage.  I don't know how this and the Holton line up chronologically, but I interpreted these as a cheap copy of the Holton, and Getzen was known to import instruments (looking at you Anborg compensating horns...).  I would attach the crappy photos I got of the Grenadier, but with the hassle it takes I'll probably wait until I get proper photos.  Despite the massive dent in the bell tail it played surprisingly tolerably, and valve compression was much better than I expected from such a cheap-looking instrument.

  
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Re: DEG Signature flugel by Modl, Holton-esque design
Reply #3 - Apr 17th, 2021 at 3:54am
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Hi everybody i hope you all doing great. I would like to know if you know who is the manufacturer of that DEG signature model because from my reaserch it looks like it was not made by Blessing because of the serial number, the valve block and the taper of the flugelhorn, i have a DEG Caravelle that its pretty similar to the one in the picture, the main differences are de trigger on the first valve slide and the shape of the leadpipe reciver
  
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